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I attended a unique seminar in Paris with Hervé This, French chemist, author, founder of Molecular Gastronomy and spiritual father of Molecular Cuisine.

Click for 360° panorama of the cooking demonstration (details below).

Who is This? Hervé This is a French chemist and author who published books which me and my family have been reading for the last 15 years. Mr This investigates all sort of chemical phenomena and illustrates them with brilliant and very fun experiences you can do in your own kitchen. He was also the spiritual father of Molecular Cuisine, like Ferran Adria or Pierre Gagnaire do. Mr This would discuss the cooking of eggs at various temperatures, then suddendly float the idea - 'We could cook the egg yolk so much that it could be shaped in little sticks that could then be dipped in a bread cream we would inject inside the egg. We would reverse the bread-in-egg tradition. That would be fun!'.

I had been looking for quite a while to attend one of these seminars and was lucky to get in for a full day special conference on March 20th to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the birth of French Molecular Gastronomy. The venue was an auditorium at Ecole Grégoire Ferrandi, a large craftsman school in downtown Paris with a famous culinary section. The school has been hosting This' conferences for 10 years as a courtesy to him. For 30 euros I could get a seat - lunch included. Many people had been turned down since there were only 100 seats. As I arrived the room was already as full as a 300-minute-egg, mostly with regulars who all knew each other. This made a point of asking each and every last participant to introduce himself and proposed we all used the familiar 'tu' form, not a common thing in France.

Who was there? All foodies, no doubt, but what sort? Chemistry professors, a moustached retired schoolteacher who gave me tips on alginate fun in the kitchen, bloggers, cookery instructors, diet coaches, a few pastry chefs, the people from chefmaster.com, scienceetgastronomie.com, artetcuisine.fr, qualibre.com, Honey and Salt, an American wine journalist, two comedians, one historian and a few cookbooks authors such as Nicole Renaud, French food historians Alain Drouard and Danièle Alexandre-Bidon. Everyone introduced themselves in turn, being forced by Mr This to repeat louder if inaudible. Who was the last person in the auditorium to be asked to introduce himself? You bet. Here I went: 'I am FX, amateur Swiss gourmet, author of FXcuisine.com, a website with 150,000 visitors last month which I invite you to visit.'

Molecular Gastronomy celebrates its 20th anniversary, Mr This started the day with a discussion of the many scientists who, before him, investigated chemical and physical phenomena in the kitchen. American readers will readily point out that Harold McGee wrote a very serious book about science in the kitchen before Mr This published anything, but Mr This retorts that 'Before Harold there were many people, such as this ancient Egyptian who wrote this here scroll about fermentation.'. So he wasn't the first to scientifically investigate culinary processes, but it is This' contention that he was the first to define a new science, called 'Molecular Gastronomy'. Whether you agree or not will be relevant mostly to the history of science a century from now, but This is certainly the most brilliant and energetic proponent of science in the kitchen. He started out in 1980 as a young chemist, and was soon offered a place at the prestigious (for France) Collège de France laboratory. When he became Dr This, there were two Nobel Prize winners on his doctorate jury.

Mr. This briefly retraced his steps over 20 years of 'molecular gastronomy', showing us how he analyzes old recipes to try and see whether the old chefs' intutions could be scientifically tested to show if they made sense or not. The idea is that chefs often make very precise observations of chemical reactions in the kitchen but sometimes offer rather unscientific explanations for why exactly things work like this. Mr This' love of putting old chefs' sayings through scientific testing is very typical of the French mind, enamored of rationality and abstract reasoning but proudly attached to its century-old traditions at the same time. You've got to love this guy. This is such a well-mannered, pleasant, outgoing, food-loving person that one is surprised that the only lady he is not a friend of is Dorothy. As he was reviewing the biographies of scientists, natural philosophers and chemists of centuries past, the central point of each life seemed to be whether their wives cheated on them, if possible with another scientist, and just how many bastard children they had sired. Very fun, but even for a French audience, a definite focus on 'la bagatelle'.

Next on the chair was French historian Danièle Alexandre-Bidon, (click for 300° panorama), who spoke about measures of times and quantity in medieval cookbooks. Before clocks entered the kitchen it was impossible for cooks to precisely tell another cook exactly how long something should cook. Some authors said "Cook as long as it takes to recite a Pater Noter" but most used expressions like "Boil for a good little while". Hildegard von Bingen indicates that, timewise, a miserere takes as long as 3 pater nosters. Volume was indicated as 'a much as a hazelnut shell will contain' or 'a walnut shell' or 'an eggshell'.

Mrs Bidon drew up a list of every expression used to express cooking time in Medieval cookbooks. For instance in the 'Ménagier de Paris', where bread was toasted to make sauces, the degree of cooking for bread is referred to as 'Sauri, seulement roussi, hâlé, noirci, brûlé, brûlé tant qu'il soit noir' (toasted, browned, swarthied, blackened, burnt, burnt so much that it is black). But she assumes that each expression corresponds to one specific cooking time and only one. So when an author write "cook for a little while" in one recipe, then "cook for some time", Mrs Bidon assumed there was a hidden scale that made each of these two expressions mean one specific time and that both were different. This is rather doubtful but her paper was fun to listen to nonetheless.

Next was a more scientific paper: Rachel Edward-Stuart from Nottingham University studied how oil penetrates potatoes in potato salad at Hervé This' Collège de France lab. A mundane subject in appearance, this study helped understand how to minimize French fries' fat content. In a short and good-humored presentation with schematics to explain her set-up, the young chemist walked us through the various stages of her experience until finally she explained that hot potatoes absborb oil more readily through capillary action in the space freed up by cells broken by the cooking.

Furthermore, oil is not absorbed evenly by all parts of the potato - the sides soak up much less oil than the core, as a simple experiment demonstrated.

The day's experiment was to add oil to boiled potatoes when cold and while still hot, and to compare the samples. We were each given two samples of her potato salad two plastic cups each with a three digit number. We confirmed her findings - when you add the oil while potatoes are still hot, they soak up more oil and are more tasty. Clearly a proper experiment would have forbidden us to eat or drink or smoke anything before any tasting, and would have used three samples with two similar and one different. But this would have meant too many potatoes for a 100 person seminar. I pointed out that I normally add a full vinaigrette to my potatoes while preparing potato salad, but apparently this would not change the result. Rachel Edward-Stuart looked at us worryingly as we voted for our favorite sample. We confirmed her findings.

Food Poetry Interlude
The day was given a very pleasant poetical tone when Katherine Khodorowsky and her friend from La Marmite à Malices, a non-profit food-obsessed comedian club, read us witty poems about food. The dialogue of pots and pans when the kitchen is quiet at night and other delights. Extremely funny but beyond the hope of translation. Really brilliant people and something I will try to emulate - reading food poetry at a dinner can be very fun indeed!

Are you a 'super taster'?
Mrs Edward-Stuart had a rather intriguing piece of molecular trickery in her bag. She handed each of us a fingernail-sized piece of paper and told us to wait. Before I could say 'Jim Jones', she explained that there are strong genetic differences between individuals when it comes to taste. This won't surprise anybody who ever visited Scotland, but in fact not only do some people have more tastebuds, but some of us can taste molecules which are totally imperceptible to others. The paper was soaked with one such molecule. Everybody looked ravaged, having just discovered there existed an aristocracy of gourmets not bred but born, a secret hereditary privilege that makes people taste two truffles when they eat one and that in a split second each of us would know where we stood in the order of things. Mr This kindly intervened to explain that nobody should get depressed or contemplate suicide by deep-fried cheeseburger in case he should discover himself as a non-taster. Some of us would taste nothing, the hoi polloi known as "non tasters" whereas most of us would feel a mildly bitter taste. But only the blue-blooded tasting aristocracy would taste an intensely bitter taste. Some of the participants just put down the ominous paper square, preferring not to know where they stood exactly. I decided to go ahead, having resolved to embrace bravely my new found condition, should I be a taste commoner or a member of this hereditary gentility. All of us take the paper in our hand, and in it goes. Fuck. It's so bitter that I nearly choke. I have to run to the faucet to drown my mouth. Some people cast me an evil eye - screw them, they certainly can be envious as they felt nothing. I am immediately crowned as one of the super tasters. Ain't life grand? And fair. If you want to do this in the privacy of your own home, and be able to face the results alone, this website sells tasting kits.

Lunch was served at 1 PM by the students of the Ferrandi school. Nothing memorable there, but I got myself a good table. Clockwise from the bottom left: a 23-year-old pastry chef at a 2 Michelin star traditional French restaurant, a diet consultant, Susi Gott Séguret, a charming lady (behind the bottle) who runs the Swannanoa School of Culinary Arts in Asheville (USA) and speaks fluent French and the French historian and her daughter. Not on the pictures but also at my tables were the two comedians from La Marmite à Malices. Lovely people all of them, and our shared serious passion for food cemented the lunch. I picked up lots of tips from the pastry chef and learned about truffle-for-tobacco crop substitution policies in North Carolina. The historian lady was still in conference mode so we could get some more details on these fascinating subjects. A lunch is about the company you keep, and that was a nice lunch!

Tools & Toys for Space-Age Foodies
A lady from www.cuisine-innovation.fr, a French consultancy for chefs who want to start using molecular cuisine tools and ingredients, demonstrates a glass settling bulb (ampoule de décantation) they want to adapt for use in kitchens to help cooks remove the fat from their sauces using differences in density. This is a very common tool in chemical labs but can't be used in kitchen. "Chefs tell us that they could never use a glass instrument in the kitchen. Whenever somebody breaks it, which is bound to happen, they would have to throw out the whole batch by fear of contamination by glass fragments. We are trying to make a very large, automated, plastic settling tank that can automate the fat skimming process in a kitchen."

Each of us was kindly offered a panacotta beaker (picture above) in a pineapple juice sauce thickened with Locust bean gum, one of these fancy thickening agents used in molecular cuisine. Food for thought indeed!

Anne Cazor then demonstrated a very precise cooker that can maintain the same temperature in the whole pot up to one tenth of a Celcius degree. This helps you get consistently eggs with a very novel consistency - that of a 3 minute egg or a 300 minute egg. The ladies above were inspecting three eggs cooked respectively at precisely 62°, 65° and 68° Celsius for one hour each.

The gentleman at the center of the picture works for Kalys, a French chemical wholesaler who supplies top gastronomic restaurants with molecular cuisine chemicals. As these products come as white powders in plastic jars bearing fancy latin names, so you think of them as chemicals whereas in fact most are extracted from plants.

They also sell kits to make your own alginate pearls and spaghettis and much more. One box was labelled 'Spherification Salt' - straight out of Lovecraft and Harry Potter. Everybody raced down the auditorium to samples the toys. Great fun! If you order from them, use the code 'ANNIVERSAIRE' and you'll get 10% off until April 20th 2008.

Looking up at the mirror above the auditorium kitchen during a break.


Professional Cooking Classes in France before and after Molecular Gastronomy
This cooking professor from the Lycée de la Rochelle hotelry school came with one of his pupils to show us how he used to teach cookery before molecular gastronomy and how he teaches now. They made a little theater sketch to show us how they teach the art of mayonnaise making before and after.

Before: 'The way you add the salt is more important than the quantity you use. And you never put the salt on the egg yolk or the salt would cook it'. Everybody laughs at this reenactment of a popular kitchen legend slayed by Mr This' many experiments with mayonnaise. He was sitting next to me, beaming with that feeling of fulfillment. After 20 years Mr This had really changed the way cookery is taught in France.

After: 'We could have used egg yolk to emulsify the oil but today we'll do it with another emulsifier to illustrate what molecular gastronomy has taught us about the role egg yolks play in mayonnaise.' They do it, then taste. 'But chef, I kind of preferred the regular version'. The moustached chef replies: 'Boy, even science has its limits.'.

'Now we'll make gougères' - 'But chef, gougère is such a has-been dish, today what people want are pizzas!'. 'So we'll make a gougère pizza, or choux pizza. We'll call them chouzzas'.Gougère is one of the most fascinating chapters in Hervé This' seminal book 'Culinary Revelations'. As an homage to him, they prepared the gougères, carefully adding one egg after the other, while explaining all the scientific knowledge now included in cookery classes thanks to Mr This. 'I was so depressed to see my students make nicer gougères than me in my classes that I was forced to find a foolproof method. You have to heat the water-and-flour mixture back to 80°C before adding the eggs or it won't work. If you do they work every time. And please, do not grate the cheese but keep it in small cubes when you add it. If you want a crust bake at 180°C, if you want them moist inside bake at 160°C. I like them moist.' A batch of piping hot 'chouzzas' were circulated for our appreciation - very tasty in fact.

As soon as the demonstration was over, Kevin the trainee chef (above left) rushed out of the kitchen and returned dressed up in his Sunday's best. He walked up to me and, seeing my camera, asked if I could take two pictures of him with Mr Hervé This, one with his pocket camera for immediate broadcast to his friends and another with my own. I bet this will be an important picture to him given the considerable respect enjoyed by Mr. This in France.

I managed to snatch this picture of a pastry class in progress at the Ferrandi school as I was leaving the building.

Epilogue
The next day I overheard a conversation between two shopping attendants in a cookware shop near Les Halles. I won't name the shop and have no idea as to its veracity, but these are the words I heard:

-Look at this order we just received. It's from the Ferrandi schoool.
The colleague looks at the long list of specialty cookware
-Geez, some client!
-Yeah, and they want 20 units of each item, no less! But it's only a tender and not an order yet. You know these guys, I bet they are already in tight with a supplier (maqués).
-Right, next thing you know they want you to take them to a fancy restaurant...
-... and then introduce them to your sister. Do you have a sister?
-No, I don't have no sister. How about you?
-Neither. But you could let them have your wife.
-No way until I'm paid on commission basis!

Hervé This's seminars are a contemporary equivalent of 18th century literary salons where beautiful ideas are shown, discussed and paraded like works of art. Attending a seminar with Dr Hervé This in the early 21st century was like spending a day in the kitchen with Antoin Carême in the 19th century or with Escoffier in the 1920s. Carême and Escoffier only invented so much and mostly built on what other chefs had made before them. Today's chefs certainly have access to more ingredients and better tools. But these were men who influenced the cuisine of their respective centuries in a decisive way. Hervé This has many precursors and Harold McGee's book On Food And Cooking covers a lot of ground later travelled on by This. But it was This who not only changed forever the way French chefs look at their recipes, and how cooking is taught in professional French cooking schools. As for molecular cuisine, the fashion of breaking up ingredients to reassemble them using high-tech tools and edible chemicals, This is the origin of this movement. Will we still eat alginate pearls and liquid nitrogen meringue in 100 years? Probably not. But you and I won't be around either. If we want to enjoy the culinary Zeitgeist of our times, this is a mighty fine opportunity.

There will be another similar seminar on June 24th 2008.


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27 Comments

  • #1
  • Comment by Beatrice
Interesting...I didn't know Hildegarde von Bingen could cook.  I seem to remember that many years ago there was a molecular gastronomy restaurant in London that served a dessert made with liquid nitrogen.  As for the lab-based separating device, I'm not sure how this improves on the old-fashioned pitchers that allow the fat to float to the top and siphon off the broth (or what have you) from the bottom.  The subject is fascinating, even for the home cook.  Now, you may be a super-taster, but can you curl your tongue?   
  • #2
  • Answered by fx
Beatrice, Hildegard actually mentionned this in a treatise on medicine but she did write about food and cookery. I just ordered a cookbook 'Hildegard von Bingen - das Kochbuch', we'll see what it tastes like. The decanting device is a project they have to make a decanting machine that can automatically decant (skim the fat) from a gallon of sauce. I think you'd need quite some time with one of them pitchers and all the ones I've seen are made of glass. I will read Hildegard's poems to help my tongue curl and report back!
  • #3
  • Comment by Luke
Bah! Super-taster or not, the effects are fairly limited, and it only makes a difference as far as one's most basic sense of taste goes. Flavor is still a whole different story, and that depends on how good your nose is. (Still, being among the non-tasters, I am envious no matter how I try to justify it.)

That said, this is yet another amazing article. I've typically been wary of molecular cuisine. Mind you, I've always respected the chemistry and physics of cooking, but the very name "molecular gastronomy" conjures images of the ingredients lists on processed food you'd find in a typical supermarket.

The way you describe it (along with the beautiful pictures), though, really takes the bite out of it. Honestly, you totally smashed the picture I had in my head of some nameless research chemist in a McDonald's owned lab working to make paper approximate the flavor of a real grilled burger.
  • #4
  • Comment by Paul Mckenna
In the UK we have a copycat called Heston Blumenthal so if English (only ) speakers want to research the matter thats the guy to Google or go from Wikipedia.

Molecular gastronomy is interesting as is recreating old recipes by such as Apicius but my practical brain tells me cooking is getting on the table on time and on budget.

Paul
FX are you sure you don't bilocate? You seem to be everywhere at once... Great post, I feel like I was there. Especially like the bit about medieval cookery and the use of measurements. Hmm a 300 min egg translated into Pater Noster time!
Very interesting. I use some chemistry because I try to replicate foods without using eggs. Most recipes seem to have eggs in them. I make a mayonnaise-type food using olive oil and flaxseed meal. Flaxseed meal is very versatile.
  • #7
  • Answered by fx
Luke, the super-taster thing is really thought provoking, in fact apparently there are huge differences in the number of tastebuds people have on their tongues. I fear this might extend to the nose too, judging from the long queues at MacDonald's. As for molecular cuisine and molecular gastronomy, it's definitely not about making industrial food using chemicals. It's about understanding how things work in the kitchen at the molecular level (molecular gastronomy) and then trying to reverse-engineer some dishes to obtain really cool and mind-boggling new dishes. People who do this are Michelin-starred chefs of variable talents, but nothing MacDonaldesque here.
  • #8
  • Answered by fx
Paul, I share your practical approach to cooking. Are you in construction? However, understanding the way things work in the kitchen definitely help you cook more efficiently even when making traditional dishes. For instance if your mayonnaise breaks, it really helps to understand what you are doing (oil in water emulsion) and how to fix it.
  • #9
  • Answered by fx
Callipygia, I have a couple medieval cookbooks (OK, more than a couple) and will try to post a couple recipes. Perhaps I could use medieval measurements as well, but readers already complain about my grams and liters. What will they say about hazelnut shells and misereres?
  • #10
  • Answered by fx
Gayle, indeed eggs are used as thickeners and emulsifiers whereas nowadays they can easily be substituted by other natural products to achieve the same effect. Have a look at the Kalys products to see how they work.
  • #11
  • Comment by Ben
You're probably one of my top inspirations of what I will do later in life once work dies down a bit and I'm more senior. You truly are an inspired gourmet. Can I link to your blog?
  • #12
  • Comment by Luke
Yeah, the thing that first gave me pause about molecular gastronomy was a demonstration I saw about spherification. I thought to myself, "Isn't that a bit too much like candy you can get at a dime store? How the hell is this cuisine?" And that was that. Bias is hard to shake off.

On the subject of supertasting, the response to bitterness alone doesn't explain the phenomenon or whether a person can be called a supertaster. If I recall, one's ability to detect propylthiouracil or phenylthiocarbamide has to do with genetic variation of a particular bitter receptor, and while a very strong response implies that the person is a supertaster, that alone can't determine it. Another way to test it is to count the number of fungiform papillae on one's tongue.

I could be off the mark though, as it's been a while since I've looked into it.
  • #13
  • Answered by fx
Ben, thanks for your kind words and please feel free to link in. I hope you'll have much fun in the kitchen in the future!
  • #14
  • Answered by fx
Luke, the lady chemist explained that the term 'super taster' was used only in the context of a specific molecule. So I may have been proved as a phenylthiocarbamide super taster but I don't pretend I am an overall super taster that can taste the 100 last dishes that were served in a particular plate!
  • #15
  • Comment by Luke
I'm kinda surprised she gave you PTC to taste. Pretty much everyone uses PROP these days. (Not that it matters much for the purpose of a simple demonstration.)

That said, if you ever have time to kill, counting the fungiform papillae on your tongue might be a fun little project. Hey, who knows? Maybe you can indeed taste the last 100 dishes served on a plate and not even know about it.
  • #16
  • Answered by fx
Luke I can't remember which molecule exactly she gave us to taste but will certainly do the papillae-counting test. Sounds quite fun! Maybe some of us have bionic tongues.
  • #17
  • Comment by Aaron in Allentown, Pennsylvania
Inspired by your entry, I purchased the supertaster kit.
Based on my physique and my predilection for fatty foods, I doubted that I was a supertaster.
This morning, my girlfriend and I took the supertaster test.
She was a non-taster, which didn't surprise me.  She loves bitter foods and non-sweetened adult beverages.
It took about five seconds for me to taste that strip, but man, did it taste awful.  I started to gag and dry heave.  I mean, Holy Shit that was nasty.
I've been trying to figure out why I love grapefruit juice and Brussels sprouts in spite of my sensitivity to bitterness.  When I eat bitter foods, I definitely wince at the bitterness, but I take pleasure in it.
I don't know the answer.  My best guess is that I relish those strong flavors because it reminds me that I'm alive.
  • #18
  • Answered by fx
Aaron, this is quite a story! I have not tried the super taster kit and am not sure it is exactly the same we had in the seminar. Probably a higher order version than what they gave us. I think the test only shows the differences in sensitivity to one molecule that hits on the bitterness papillae, and don't think it is meant to test our overall likeness of bitter foods. Still, I hope your girlfriend forgave you for being the 'super taster'!
Excellent pictures! I wish I could take part in these seminars!
  • #20
  • Answered by fx
Martin, thanks for visiting and remember they have another seminar in June, apparently with a few English-speaking speakers!
  • #21
  • Comment by Sam
Excellent coverage of the conference!  But it was awkward to read you continually refer to Herve This as >.  He holds a PhD degree and a professorship - it would be much more appropriate to refer to him as > or >.Thanks for the wonderful photos of the conference!
  • #22
  • Answered by fx
Sam, I'm sorry but your message has been cut. Did you mean that I should refer to This as Dr Prof This, or Prof Dr This rather than Mr This? It's so much more fun to play on this' name that I forgot my manners. Were you at the conference?
Thanks for visiting and hope to see you back on my blog!
j'adore l'idée de mouillettes d'oeuf plongées dans la crème de pain, j'adore Hervé This, j'adore ton reportage. Merci!!!!!!!!!
  • #24
  • Answered by fx
Sandra, merci pour ta visite et essaie d'aller voir un de ses séminaires, j'ai mis le lien sur l'article, tout le monde peut entrer!
Le prochain séminaire, c'est jeudi 18 septembre  de 16 h à 18 h !
venez !
  • #26
  • Comment by Danette
You are so lucky you got to go to this seminar!  I would have loved to have been there.  I assume it was all in French, though, of course, sigh...my French is not good enough to understand a seminar.
  • FX's answer→ Yes the French are not too good with languages and French is a requirement. But there were some lovely Americans there too!




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