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Tools & Ingredients Text-only version printed fromhttp://FXcuisine.com/default.asp?Display=7It took me several visits to the mythical 200-year-old professional kitchenware shop
Dehillerin in Paris before they agreed to sell me the knife I wanted. A
unique gastronomic pilgrimage destination if you can swallow the
attitude.
Picture © Dominique Brodbeck www.brodeck.org
The Dehillerin shop is famous for its range of copper casseroles,
sold in every shape and size with either the traditional tin coating or
the more durable stainless steel interior. But that's only about a
fifth of their inventory. You'll find there every possible contraption
used to cut, mash, wash, filter, boil, steam, mold or serve food. These
are not the designer tools found in high-end kitchenware shops but
rather super resistant, streamlined, giant sized tools used by actual
French chefs. No surprise the place is such a magnet for amateur
foodies!
I assume Dehillerin must have been featured in wealthy housewifes magazines in
Japan and North America because they flock here on sunny Paris
afternoons, a bit ill-at-ease in the manly bazaar ambience. The shop
has been selling kitchenware and cookware to professional cooks for two
centuries, so tourists are clearly not a priority. If you are a foreign
chef you'll be treated decent, but amateurs and tourists are put on the
back burner.
See for yourself. A scene is repeated every other
minute in the shop. One of the tourist clients would ask the price of
some saucepan. One of the attendant, clad in blue overalls, gives him a
nasty grin and says "You can read, can't you? Well then, it will be
easy since you're so smart. You take the saucepan's reference number,
here #5439795844 and go at the end of the aisle to see the price sheet.
Understood? Attaboy" or words to that effect. You can see the price
list in the middle of Mr Brodeck's pictures above. A really easy and
user friendly system. Hard to understand why a hundred clients a day
ask the question. They could put a large sign in English and French but
they would miss the fun.
And if you need help, then God helps you. On an earlier visit, I saw this gigantic dented knife on a shelf and asked the attendant if he could get if for me. "What do you want to use it for?" he asked sharply. "To cut roasts, I guess" I answered. He put the knife back before I could even touch it. "This is not the knife for you. This one is used to cut slices off whole salmons. Here is a roast knife"
he said, handing me the right knife, an ugly asparagus of a knife. I
was quite disappointed but it became clear that they would not sell me
the 'wrong' knife even if I insisted. End of story. I had bought about
all I could carry, and the shop employee gave me his business card,
explaining that he worked on commissions. This shows some economic
rationale for the better treatment awarded to chefs who probably buy
large quantities.
Parisians are not bad people. Not worse
than New-Yorkers at least. But they just have more respect for the man
who is almost rudely agressive than for the one who is apologetically
looking at his shoes. That's their culture. After about 2 decades of
visiting Paris I've come to almost enjoy dealing with the Parisian
in-your-face attitude and now manage not to be treated like a schmuck.
I still wanted my knife and devised a little plan to get a better treatment next time I visited the shop and buy my knife.
About
a year later, I arrived and my guy was busy mouth-trashing one of the
tourist clients. I came right behind him and said loudly "Alors Monsieur [man's last name], tu me fais un enfant dans le dos?"
("So Mister, are you making me a child behind my back?", a highly
colorful expression implying that the man did not recognize one of his
old and trusted clients and was serving the tourists instead of
dropping everything to come to me). It worked like a charm. The
informal 'tu' used by professional cooks between themselves was the
finishing note. The guy turned round, red in the face, like if I was
some famous cook he could just not remember. He escorted me to every
corner of the shop, kindly offering to look prices up, making jokes,
carrying my stuff for me. I decided to try my chance with the knife
again ans asked "You wouldn't have a salmon steak knife by any chance?". He stopped to think for a moment, raced to the knifes aisle and came back proudly with the knife in hand "You are lucky, we are the only one to stock it in Paris."
Dehillerin
www.e-dehillerin.fr
Rue Coquillère 18-20
Paris (at les Halles)
60 Comments
- #1
- Comment by Yves Bonnard
Génial... très impressionnant! A bientôt! Yves Bonnard- #2
- Comment by jordan courtney-ellis
I've been there! Same as you - my girlfriend thought a garlic press was 5€, then 50€ it turned out to be 9€.- #3
- Comment by FX Hartigan
Je ne suis jamais allé en France, mais... un jour, je continue à dire. J'aimerais bien y chercher des trucs culinaires. When I go into restaurant supply stores, I call it "chef porn."- #4
- Comment by Sandra Oliva
Love your website/blog, beautiful pictures and most of all this story made me laugh. Good description.- #5
- Comment by Stephen Lamb
Wonderful story and will make my upcoming visit to this story much more rewarding. Many thanks!- #6
- Comment by kim evasic
Brilliant, apt description. I go there often, and my newfound friend, Emile, usually has a lingering fragrance of wine on his breath, and will now help me. Not the case when I first went in and felt like I was in the way as they catered to the "real" customers. Love this place.- #7
- Comment by jeanne
How I enjoyed this article! It was a chance to relive the experience my friend and I had. I am certain the same clerk reluctantly agreed to assist us.We were clear targets for his rudeness... non-French speaking American women... yikes.but what a haven for chefs. My friend's son is a chef in N.H.and she was looking for a saucepan of high character. Loved the experience and the drama of it all. We also returned last year and purchased a partner for the saucepan.- #8
- Comment by Skip Fowler
I have been shopping at Dehillerin since 1970. Although not a professional chief I am a serious amateur. My wife and I, I was in the Army stationed in Europe at the time, were referred to the store by Julia Child whose name opened doors. Our original salesman Gaston has gone to his reward, probably due to those Gauloises that were ever present. We have introduced dozens to the store and received the article from one whom we had introduced.- #9
- Answered by fx
Thanks Skip, do you remember what you bought from Dehillerin? What was the fanciest cookware you ever bought there? And the very best buy?- #10
- Comment by Michel Bieri
When I was apprenti patissier in Paris in 1965. on my day off I would take the last subway with about 100 empty eggs carton to sell them at the Halles and stay with my aunt which was selling all her red Beet from the banlieue where they raised them.and throughout the night I would go glue my nose to the mecca of the most beautiful store in the world and wonder at the very pricey equipment, (I was making only 50Francs a month) and now here in california 43 years later everytime I use my copper poelon amongst other think I am so glad that I spend that 42 Francs for it , What a bargain that was If I only knew that I would still have and use It . Thank you for remind me of my wonderful work I choose to do. Chef Michel- #11
- Comment by Ruth
I have not been to this delightful sounding store yet. Thank you for the charming article. I do however disagree with you about one tiny thing...New Yorkers are FAR less rude than Parisians. I've been to Paris about 50 times, often to visit relatives and I love the city. But their rudeness trumps every other city I've ever visited. Maybe you could open a branch Dehillerin in NYC?- #12
- Answered by fx
Michel I am so glad my blog helped you reminisce your wonderful time in Paris as a trainee pastry chef. What a city to learn this trade! You are very right about expensive cookware - we are all too poor to be able to afford cheap equipment. Only heavy, well-built pots will last. The others wear out and need constant replacing. I want to be buried with my favorite pots and hope they'll last my lifetime!- #13
- Answered by fx
Ruth you and I should organise a rudeness contest to pitch the Parisians against the New Yorkers. But what language would we use? Clearly the Parisians like to take advantage of the hapless anglo tourist, I bet they wouldn't be so confortable if they had to do it in English!- #14
- Comment by Jay
Charming observations- #15
- Comment by Cecile
Wow, what a fabulous piece ! I went to Dehillerin in 1998 and was so confused I bought nothing but marvelled at the selection, dust, rude but very knowledgeable clerks. I'm going back in July. This time I won't be put off by all the confusion and won't feel as intimidated as before. I'm also researching prices on copper cookware in NYC to see if Dehillerin is less pricey. I loved how you gamed the system...finally getting the knife of your dreams. Thanks again for a wonderful trip down memory lane.- #16
- Answered by fx
Cecile, thanks for visiting and good luck with Dehillering! I recommend you check Mora at Rue Montmartre, a stone trow away, they are more friendly, they speak English and have the same cookware. Otherwise check on Ebay for lots of copper cookware bargains. Good luck!- #17
- Comment by Alan
I've been there twice, but strangely got no attitude, probably because I'm a Filipino and they thought I was clueless, either that or I knew exactly what I wanted (le creuset ironware -- a dou feu, sauce pan and frying pan) and wouldn't be diverted. I found it delightful and I'll always remember the Italian visitor who came in, stood for a moment at the doorway, gazed around him and then whispered reverently, "bella".Always been meaning to try the restaurant beside it, which is supposed to be famous for its pork knuckles as well as its onion soup, available 24 hours a day. Wonder if you've been there and can give a review?
Love your site and recipes by the way, found it by following the spoor from your old postings about learning foreign languages
- #18
- Answered by fx
Alan, a knowledgeable cook is universally respected, even at DeHillerin! The restaurant next door is Le Pied de Cochon, the food is OK, a really consistent level of good brasserie but not the fanciest. It's great to try it at least once. The porky waiter (you'll see which one) is one of the rudest in Paris, punch him once for me if you see him!- #19
- Comment by Matthew Johnson
I visited this shop by chance while lost in Paris ( lost in Paris is not a bad thing by the way) The sight of copper pots and jelly molds caught my eye. The week before i had spent visiting the many chateau in the Loire. I was inspired by the shelves FILLED TO THE BRIM with copper.The store is amazing inside! I could have left with a million and one things but unfortunatly for me i was already overbudget. I managed to figure out the price guide thing myself, picked up a copper pot and brought it up to the counter. The man seemed very pleased to see me possibly because i seem so young but it was a very enjoyable experience. I did notice some people were being treated in a rude manner but i guess i just got lucky!
- #20
- Comment by Mona
I really amazed. Very interesting article and good you told us about their rudeness. I visited Paris on 1989, and Renne ( west France ), Bretagne in 2000.But why they don't want to sell their ? I don't understand??
Anyway thanks for your valuable information. Thanks a million for your web site. :)
Cheerio,
Mona
- #21
- Answered by fx
Mona, Parisians come across as rude but it's mostly a cultural style. There is even an campaign of TV commercial for the daily "The Parisian" centered on the reputation of Parisians as very rude people. It's not a commercial strategy, but it wouldn't matter as Dehillerin is full like an egg from dawn till dusk.- #22
- Comment by anna
Have visited Dehillerin many times and I don't speak French. Just rove around the aisles, pick up what you want, don't ask the price and have them pack it up. My last wish is to be waked at G. Detou and buried in the basement of Dehillerin in one of those ancient copper pots big enough to stew a whale.- #23
- Answered by fx
Anna, that is a most intriguing plan for your funeral, but where would you have your last meal - at Le Pied de Cochon just opposite?- #24
- Comment by Feyoh
Thank you for the tip of how to shop for cookware in Paris. A really handy bit of information about the price list.Nice stratagem on getting the knife you wanted.
- #25
- Answered by fx
Thanks Feyoh and have fun in Paris!- #26
- Comment by Geoff Ball
I remember I was going to buy a postcard from a shop keeper in Torino. But he turns to his buddy as I'm waiting for him to ring up the bill and he tells his buddy I'm stupid for paying the 2500 Lira for the card (in Italian).I said, "Maybe, but maybe not" as I left without the card.
I also found the staff on the Italian trains to be rather rude.
- #27
- Comment by Claudio Czapski
I've been a client of Dehillerin, Mora and Simon since the late 70's - and over time nothing seems to change. It's amazing how time stops there - anyone wishing to get the feel of "good old times" has just to walk in.And I agree with you guys - kitchen supply and equipment is an investment - get the best you can afford and it will last and please forever. And take your kids with you when you buy because they'll keep using the stuff after you passed away .
- #29
- Comment by Grant
I don't understand Americans and the French. You can take 10 Americans and walk them into the same store and 5 will come out saying the French are rude and the other 5 will say they're delightful. I've bought every piece of cookware I own from Dehillerin over the years and I've never once been treated rudely by any of the staff and I'm American and I don't speak any French.I also don't know why people struggle with the pricing system. They're more than willing to explain it to you. If you think about it when you go to McDonalds the cheeseburgers don't come with a pricetag attached. You look on the menu for cheeseburger and then you look at the price. Problem is we all know how to spell cheeseburger. If we were a store that dealt with international people who didn't know the names of things in the local language we'd just place a #1 tag on the cheeseburger and they'd look on the menu for #1 and find the price. This works for virtually every language on the planet including Chinese! Maybe the system hasn't changed because it works. I walk in, I find what I want (without knowing the French name), I find the number on it then I look it up in the book hanging at the end of the aisle which has the price. If I like the item I just jot the number down on a sheet of paper and when I get done I hand the paper to them and pay.
For those who don't know even if you choose to have it shipped home (you pay shipping but not local tax) I pay 50% what the same cookware costs at Sur La Table or Williams Sonoma. The former has the identical Mauviel cookware but the latter has thinner versions for the American home cook (go for the real stuff). The cheapest way to buy from them is to carry it out and take the paperwork provided by Dehillerin to the customs window at the airport. Not only do you not pay shipping but you don't pay tax.
- #30
- Comment by Katy
I stumbled across your website/blog while researching some information on Dehillerin for a friend who is going to Paris. You are such a HOOT! Plus, I love your recipes--probably because you cook a lot like me (I too am a pepperhead...), and because you also use the "my own invention" phrase for stuff you just make up (I have done this for years--it comes from Tweedldee and Tweeedldum's "It's my own invention" in Alice in Wonderland...).I will be back, keep writing!!
- #32
- Comment by John - Catering Equipment Supplier
What a cool little place. I wish we had somewhere like that near me!Excellent article.
- #33
- Comment by Steve Adams
OK - now I am prepped. On my way there in 5 minutes.- #35
- Comment by Jennifer Oswald
I am on a road trip from our home in Italia through Belgium, France, Spain, and back. Your articles on where to find cookware & ingredients are epic (thank you!). I'll be heading to Dehillerin on Friday, as well as G.Detout. I am 95% sure I have also convinced my husband to take us through Fresnoy to visit the LeCreuset factory. Have you been there? Wondering whether it is worth it when I know I'm going to be standing in front of all that LeCreuset @ Dehillerin...I've asked a friend to come with me, (one) b/c I think she would enjoy it, but (two) b/c I think I need someone to keep me accountable. :)
- #37
- Comment by Jennifer Oswald
Bah! The *only* store that had Le Creuset was La Bovida! (I didn't even think the selection was very broad) Mora, Simon, Dehillerin all had Staub, but the only sign of Le Creuset was a few flame-coloured lids in a dusty, old box on the floor of an aisle in the basement of Dehillerin (I wasn't even sure if they were for sale). Did I miss the memo?? I called the LeCruset factory and they no longer offer tours for safety reasons. Still debating whether the 1.5 drive from Paris would be worth the discount.- #39
- Comment by Richard
Great article, I need some new kitchen items. My wife and I are going over soon. What is the best way to have items shipped back to the US?- #40
- Comment by Linda Newman
I was looking for this cooking store and enjoyed your information. Also, I drink Cupcake wine and there was a contest to enter...I thought it was so funny!Thank you and I look forward to discovering E. Dehillerin on my visit beginning tomorrow, 10/4.
Linda Newman
- #41
- Comment by Maurine
Now you have me anxiously awaiting my second trip to Dehilleirn. My first visit, in 2000, was a treat, with a sales clerk who was positively charming, almost flirty, and helped me through the store as I picked out knives, a chinios, a copper bowl.... altogether I think I spent less than $400 US, so it wasn't the commission for sure. My second visit will be in two weeks- I can't wait to see how that goes!- #42
- Comment by Pam
Thank you so much for identifying this store to me. 8 yrs ago I visited this tremendous store, but then lost track of it. Back in Paris and planning on going back. Thanks.- #43
- Comment by rob
went there a few days ago. Fantastic shop. I (obviously) know nothing of cooking. Rudeness? No; they have the right attitude and obviously know what they are talking about, so should not suck up to dumb customers. Rude is an assistant (or customer) who is too stupid to know how little he knows (English bicycle shops are full of them).- #45
- Comment by Aman
ok you have no idea how timely this messgae is!!! for the last several weeks i've been looking at cast iron enameled cookware because i REALLY need and want a new pot/dutch oven. I ruined one (crappy mind you)pot cooking apples for applesauce. and the other one i have is tall and skinny. I had decided that i for sure wanted the cherry red dutch oven but didn't really have an opinion on the brand but have only heard good things about le creuset cookware! so what i'm saying is I HAVE TO WIN THIS SET!!!!!!!!!- #47
- Comment by Pat
This article so reminded me of my first (and only to date) visit to Dehillerin!! I was there for two hours and was assisted by a truly energetically helpful gentleman who I think took pity on me...but who was also quite enticed by the fact that I was buying at least 4 copper pots/sauciers. After much discussion/haggling we ended up with my pot selection - 2 sauciers and 2 larger frying pans - and it was wrapped for my carrying. Yup, I carted it from Dehillerin back to meet hubby at the American Embassy. While waiting for him outside I was not so nicely asked by the gendarmes what was in my package, and when told, I was asked to go sit on a bench in the park! It was pre-9/11 or I'd probably have had to open the package! Can't wait to visit again this summer - this time I'll be shipping!- #49
- Comment by Patty
Hi. I have 2 pots that I believe are steal. They have black steal handles that are bolted to pan. On the side of pan are the words made in France as well as these two words. They are only partial words as they are worn. It looks like DES - RESEAR. I believe there are more letters but are worn. Can anyone tell me anything about these pans? Thanks for your help.Patty
- #50
- Comment by Rudesh Prasad
Hi Fx,I was inspired by your visit to DeHillerin, and believe it or not, it was on my 'must do list' during my 1st visit to Paris ever. I found it, and was immediately like a child in a candy store. I was expecting a very harsh reception, but funnily, I made a friend. Emile was one of the sales people there, a Mauritian Indian. My background is Fiji Indian and so we started a long conversation and next thing you know, I am in the basement and allowed to take photos and see whatever I wanted. It was a very good experience.
Fx, we haven't heard from you in a long time, your fans miss you.
- #52
- Comment by Marcus
After a while you make it past the bluster in Paris and you start to see that the haughty arrogance is little more than the hot wind aimed to cover up a growing feeling of inadequacy as the once globally important city loses its influence to the new worlds of Asia and The Americas. While it is still one of my favourite cities in the world, Paris thrives on its incredible history, not its shining future. The locals know it, but have yet to work out how to capitalise on it.- #54
- Comment by Pat
The caption to the first photo says this is a mythical shop, yet the rest of the article implies that the place actually exists. Which is it?- #56
- Comment by harry charles
I've been there numerous times. It's a must visit on Paris trips. There is also an excellent store in the area for buying yeast and other food-like restaurant/cooking items. Anyway my wife and I have never had a problem in Dehillerin, you just have to be patient. Our Paris trips are always in January though when they're aren't lots of tourists and the locals need your money more. The last couple years we've dealt with a Turkish salesman at Dehillerin who is a bit nicer than the native Frenchmen. The store is really cramped so I usually wait outside. I think attractive, friendly, well dressed American women don't have any problem getting good service there.- #58
- Comment by Lolita
In 2009, I thought I was going to Pars, but that trip did not happen.Dehillerin was in my itinerary.
This was before I stumbled upon your blog.
Keep writing about D please--my planned trip is for next year!
- #59
- Comment by Susan Cox
I have been to E.Dehilleran on every visit that I make to Paris; I will be going there again next week. I never experienced the rudeness, but saw other customers having problems buying things. e.g. an English woman was not allowed to buy a vast number of copper saucepans as she was only going to hang them up in her kitchen.I have, however, had to take an "exam" before being allowed to buy things...the best time was explaining (successfully), in French,that I would grease the copper cannele moulds that I desired with 90% melted butter and 10% melted beeswax.
I have bought many patisserie items that I have never seen anywhere else which continue to give me great joy.